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Monday, February 4, 2013

(9th) Discussion #18

Welcome back, freshmen! We're back to short-answer format questions this week, with a focus on personal essays. I might suggest having your SAQR rubric handy to make sure you're going for a score of 3!

Step One: Go to this link and read the personal essay by Vint Cerf about respect. http://thisibelieve.org/essay/29294/

Step Two: Choose ONE of the questions below to answer, making sure all directions are followed.

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Discussion Topics (choose only one!):

  1. According to the author, what are some possible dangers of communicating only through types/written words? Use evidence from the text and explanation to support your answer.
  2. Based on the author's writing, how do you think he would solve a dispute between two people? Use evidence from the text and explanation to support your answer. 
  3. Based on the essay, what does the author mean by "respect?" What kinds of actions are those of a respectful human being? Use evidence from the text and explanation to support your answer.

Directions:
  • Choose a discussion question, and answer it completely according to the directions. Indicate in your comment which discussion question you are answering.
  • Use the pen name you provided at the beginning of the year.
  • Use correct spelling and grammar at all times.
  • In order to receive an "A," you must not only post your answer, but comment on a peer's ideas as well. Please remain positive and polite when doing so. 

Due Date: This post will remain open for comments and discussion until Monday, February 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM; after this time comments will close. 

27 comments:

  1. I am answering question 1:

    A possible dangers of communicating through typed or written words could be misinterpretation. The reading of words "often invites the worst possible interpretation." Written or typed words can be taken in any way whether it be negative or positive. Losing trust in others and and sending "email nasty-gram" can be the result of of misinterpretation of written or typed words. It is much better to speak on a face-to-face basis. Speaking to where you can actually hear a person's voice can also clear any misconception through written or typed words.

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  2. This is in response to Q#1.

    Some possible dangers of communicating ONLY through typed or written words could be (yes, as koolaidkid319 said) misinterpreting one another. The reason most people talk to each other face to face is to understand body language. If I'm frowning and trying to assure you that i'm happy, you're not going to believe me. But if i typed "I'm happy :)" You'd (admit it) think that I am having a good day. Words are just words. Actions speak louder than words. I could type an entire essay on how much i love the president, but if you'd seen me in the hall a week earlier dissing him, you'd probably second guess yourself.
    We all know that "mov[ing] the discussion to face-to-face or at least the telephone [allows] better social cues [to] moderate an increasingly angry exchange." I would think it very hard to correct an incorrect assumption of you on the internet. For example, no matter how many times you say you're a girl on the internet, people will think you are a man. (unless you are videochatting and you can make it completely and utterly clear that you are and always have been a woman)
    Vint thinks that "Reading words often invites the worst possible interpretation." and that "Understanding this is key to the world of the Web."

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    1. I am glad we have the same idea. I do agree with your statement as well. Actions do speak louder than words. How you really feel about a specific subject will ultimately come down to how you portray your body language. If one only follows the written or typed words of another person, there is a chance that they will be mislead by what is stated and not realize the actual opinions of the person.

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  3. Answer to question#1:

    I believe both koolaidkid319 and katnissneverclean get the idea. You can misinterpret people without the small, simple give-aways to what one means. You could also choose your words in a way that someone might find offensive if they read it the wrong way, such as " I met a very ugly girl. " First you think of the speaker talking about someone unattractive, but they could have meant she had an ugly personality ( Bully etc. ) and if they didn't have any back information or listen to the way it was intended to be said, a fight could break out.

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  4. Question 2

    Based on the author's writing, I think that he would solve a dispute between two people by,"asking[them]about their stories." He thinks that "we should disagree in a civil fashion," probably because it's more mature and sophisticated. Disagreeing in a civil fashion lets you to hear each side of the story, which might help get the problem solved faster. Knowing a person's thoughts on the problem may also help the another understand why they disagreed with them in the first place,so they could try to "treat[eachother]with respect."

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  5. the author meaning of respect is "Respect doesn’t mean we have to agree, but we should disagree in a civil fashion." meaning, we shouldn't fight, we should solve this with words.

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  6. I am answering question 1

    I think that the author means that it is better to have a face to face conversation because when you are talking to someone face to face the person who is speaking can know that you are listing. If they know that you are listing they feel that they are getting the respect that they need that will enjoy talking to you. I also agree with koolaidkid39 because how he said, people can and will misinterpret you because they aren't seeing who they are talking to.

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  7. answering question 1
    I believe that communicating only through typed words doesn't always show what they are trying to say. These messages "can lead to serious disputes rooted in misunderstanding and distrust" because they hide emotions in some cases. The evidence is that no one can "recall a time when I have been proud of an online conversation that ended in an email nasty-gram." This shows that when conversations are taken disrespectfully, they lead to anger and hatred. To solve conversations, it is sometimes easier to have a tete-a-tete with that person.
    I agree with Alberto because people can show more of what they want to explain through conversation rather then messaging.

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  8. I am going to answer question number one three. I feel that the authors meaning of respect is to give someone your attention and listen to what they have to say. In the world many people don't listen to what others have to say, when they could get a really good lesson out of it.Like in the passage when author Vint Cerf says "I believe that every person deserves respect, and that I can learn something new from everyone". No one has the exact same story in life. So thers always something diffrent and unique that you can learn from every individual,and you should give them respect becuase they might actually know something that you don't. I respectfully disagree with blog poster "Rio's", idea about respect meaning that we should fight with our words. I think we should do that but, I don't really think that is what Vint Cerf is trying to tell us about respect in his essay. I also think that people are more open to you when you respect them. Respectful people listen while others talke to them and re attntive. Being respectful dosen;t mean you have to agree with everything someone is telling you. Being respectful also dosen'e mean that you are wrong when you disagree with something that someone says ,but being respectful is honestly and kindly giving your opinion about something that someone does or says.

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  9. Answering question 3:

    I believe that what the author is trying to say, is that respect is being interest and being civil during a disagreement."Respect doesn't mean we have to agree, but we should disagree in a civil fashion....where miscues are common and can lead to serious disputes rooted in misunderstanding and distrust." This line in the text plains how difficult it is to be civil during a argument, but when civil you seem to act as if you have respect for what the other person is talking about. "I believe that every person deserves respect, and that I can learn something new from everyone." This line in the essay, is stating how the more respect you show, the less hostile the person is and might teach you something. like our teachers, when we become loud and disrespectful, they also become hostile and not be able to teach us something or take away a fun fun activity.

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    1. Nintendo144gms February 18, 2013 4:45 P.M
      I agree with the answer regarding question #3. Because by using manners and kind words to that person, you can make the other person respect you and probably forge a relationship with you.

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  10. Nintendo144gms February 17, 2013 7:30 P.M Topic #1
    If you communicate with people only through messaging and written words, you’ll unexpectedly end up sending hurtful words and confusion toward that person. In an “online conversation that ended in an email nasty-gram”, we can send hurtful words or a conversation without feelings that can result in fighting. Also, the phrase “Reading words often invites the worst possible interpretation” means that when talking with another person online, you don’t know what words you are using that can create a misunderstanding on the other side. So it’s best to “move the discussion to face-to-face or at least the telephone” just so we can achieve respect and relationships on our conversations.

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  11. Based on the author's writing we should solve disputes or "disagree in a civil fashion". What he means by this is that we don't have to "agree with everyone", but make a civil argument. Not only will this help solve a dispute, but helps learn from other people.

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  12. Q#1
    The only problem the author seems to have about communicating to someone through text or written message is that the person might misinterpret what you're saying. So you have to try to be careful of thet way you say things through this type of communication."Reading words often invites the worst possible interpretation."The author was saying that when you say certain thing they could viewed in a negative way or in the way that it wasn't meant to be viewed.

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  13. answer to question 2

    cameron.harris

    i believe the author, Vint Cerf , would handle a dispute between to people with civility and maturity. "Respect doesn’t mean we have to agree, but we should disagree in a civil fashion.". even though that might not always be the outcome its still the main route that should always be the base of solving disputes and showing respect."Even though it’s impossible to assure civility in all situations, I can’t recall a time when I have been proud of an online conversation that ended in an email nasty-gram."

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  14. from T_cute:

    The authors meaning of respect to me means that you can agree to disagree.In the passage is says"Respect doesn’t mean we have to agree, but we should disagree in a civil fashion."You dont have to agree with peoples opinion but you still need to respect it.Because you would want someone to respect your's even if you think differently,or may have a outlook on things a different way.

    I agree with alberto Gonzalez,beacuse he's right about not having to resolve our issuse with violence,that the problem can be handled with a one on one conversation,disssucing the issue.

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  15. from Monroe98:

    In my opinion fact and truth are equally important. Fact is based on the realistic things whereas the truth is more based on how a person feels. It's like saying the FACT is I'm brunette, but the TRUTH is I want to be blonde. I think that truth can have just as much power as fact because fact doesn't always apply to certain situations. There is an exception to every rule and feelings always have to be taken into account. I think that truth has impacted my life more than fact because like I said there is always an exception and rules can be broken whereas the truth is something more personal and easier connect in our day to day interaction with people. I like the example that Live_2Dance used because it's a real life example that actually puts things in perspective. =

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  16. from Jams:

    In answer to question two:
    Based on the author's writing, I think he would attempt to solve a dispute between two people by arranging for them to "move the discussion to face-to-face or at least the telephone so that better social cues can moderate [their] increasingly angry exchange," because "[r]eading words often invites the worst possible interpretation," and a person's tome and body language can convey meanings in ways that written words can not and which typed words have no chance of ever accomplishing. (A person's handwriting can convey some emotions, as, for example, a person's handwriting can show if they are excited or enthusiastic about what they are writing in the length of the line through the 't's; a longer line indicates more enthusiasm.)

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  17. from spiderman31:

    Based on the essay, the author uses respect in the sense of listening to someone when they express their opinion, not necessarily agreeing with it but not being rude about it, and if you don't agree "disagree with a civil fashion." The actions of a respectful person are to be "curious and civil" when people express their opinions to them and to disagree in a civilized way with being offensive.

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  18. Vint Cerf respects people thoughts and opinion and he learns new things by listening to others.He also can share his ideas with others without having to be offensive, offensive makes you uncomfortable and embarrassed.The web teaches people how to communicate well in face to face conversation.

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    1. Vint Cerf , would handle an argument between two people with ,civility and maturity.He respects people thoughts and opinion because he knows he can learn something from them.Respect him means a civilized way of sharing and disscusing ideas with understanding not just fighting to show wich oppion is better."You dont have to agree with peoples opinion but you still need to respect it". Showing that no matter what always haveto keep an open mind.

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  19. If you only communicate through written words you can't show how serious you are when you say them. Say if you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend and you don't really want to keep the relationship going, you could use a note or whatever to give them a hint at why you want to be over. Though this may be effective, it does little to prove how you felt while you said that. Some girls or boys think that this is the dumbest way to end a relationship, since it is childish and immature.disagree with a civil fashion."this is a good example at how you can carry out a disagreement between two people without causing harm to one another.

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  20. 2.) Rapid McFlurry
    Vint Cerf would handel a situation with total calmness and composure and professonalisim becausehe states in his essay "I believe it’s imperative — even selfish, you might say — to treat every person with respect." by that he is saying that it is hard to treat every one with the same respect level but he still does it.So if you have to ever settle a dispute again, do it with the same great perks disscused in his essay.

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  21. Based on the author’s writing, I think he would solve a dispute between two people “should disagree in a civil fashion.” I think that the author is saying is that we as people should not solve disputing between each other with are actions but, that we should talk to one another with “respect”. I think that if we could solve are dispute between each other then I fell that we as people could move forward in the world in the right direction.

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  22. I believe what the author means by the word respect is that you don't have to agree or to be the same to be respected, the word us to tolerate. "Respect dosen't mean you have to agree, but we ahould disagree in a civil-fashion.". Saying that we should nit fight and go to war and stuff like that, that in a disagreement we can find an agreement.
    I agree with lilscooby_20 because we can learn to listen and aslo learn from there opinions, I mean, they also have the right to express thier thoughts as much as we can too.

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  23. ninjastar318

    question 3

    agreeing with spiderman31 saying "the author uses respect in the sense of listening to someone when they express their opinion, not necessarily agreeing with it but not being rude about it, and if you don't agree", i know that the author means that "respect" means that either way you are disagreeing or agreeing you must show concerdiration in any way. As Vint Cerf qoutes "Respect doesn’t mean we have to agree, but we should disagree in a civil fashion."so just think on what other people say pefore you comment on it.

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