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Friday, November 2, 2012

(9th) Weekend Discussion #11



"NO! Try not. Do… or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back


CONSIDER: Another famous quotation, and this time from popular culture! Do we hold ourselves back by saying that we will only “try” to do something? Does making the firm statement that something WILL be done give more power and motivation? Are our minds so easily influenced by the words we say? Explain.

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16 comments:

  1. First off, my mother used to say that same thing when I was younger.
    Secondly, I think some people have a stronger will than others, so, while telling myself "I will" has never helped me accomplish something, I do know some people who say that it /does/ help them. Likewise, I do not feel I am holding myself back by /not/ doing such, but I think my mother feels different. I think that it really depends on your personality type, as people I know who have a similar personality to mine feel the same as I do, but my friends whose personalities differ tend to think differently as well.

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    1. i agree with jams here. if you say i will more than i will try, than you are motivating and telling yourself what you will do. either you do or you dont, there is no well i tried. that is an excuse for why didnt you acomplish it.

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  2. I've never read this quote. never heard of it. But wow, this is great. people don't really think about this. Now let's see. Well, i don't really think of it as "holding ourselves back", But i do think people could instead say "I will" rather than "I'll try." I saw The Cat in the Hat a little while ago and something close to this was in that movie. The cat had messed up the kitchen, and Conrad and Sally were enraged. So Sally grabs The Cat's bow-tie and pulls him towards her. She tells him that he has to clean up the mess. He replies "I'll try." Sally looks him in the eye and firmly says, "You won't try. You'll DO." So yes, people should be firm. people should nod, "Yes. I will do this." it's more of a self-propelling thing, i guess. Our minds are not so simple. But i'd be more likely to DO something if i had the incentive. Yoda is quite wise.

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  3. I do fell we hold ourselves back because I've always been told "words have power" and when we tell ourselves that we will try do something we wont always do it or give full effort. I think telling yourself something will be done will give you motivation because you believe in yourself instead of doubting yourself or not really knowing if your going to get something done.Our minds are influenced by the things we say because "words have power" as I said. We talk more than we show so if you talk good enough to influence someone there is no reason to show them.

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  4. Try. Well, to a normal person if you tell them to try odds are they will give you their lowest amount of effort. However if you tell them to do something, you will recieve quality due to a demand or order being given to that person. But in reality not every person is normal. If you tell me to try i would give you 110% not 10%. I give it my best, i may succeed i may not. Our minds run by what we say. As far as if it holds us back, yes it can. If you tell somebody that "I'll try" and you give it your least then look where you're going to be. So far behind. Somebody else could give it their best and take the lead its like a race. Give it 10%, enjoy last. Give it 110% enjoy the winners circle. Even if you lose you get a winners circle for attempting to win. Thats my point of view on this subject.

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  5. After reading this I thought of the little voice in my head when, you are going to do something and there something telling no and do not. Most of the times these little voice are right. if people said this to them self then I think that they would be less likely to succeed at something because, if you tell yourself try not, there is no try then I fell that you are not going to give something your all. I fell that why people tell you to never say not, I can because 9 time out of 10 you can do anything.

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  6. I think we choose to say we will only "try" to do something because we are afraid to fail. We use try instead of will because we do not have enough faith in ourselves. I personally believe that if you say you will only "try" to do something then the job won't get done because we won't try hard enough. If you say you will do something the job will get done because you have a motivation.

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  7. I believe the quote is saying that you should not TRY at the thing hings you do but DO. I like this quote because its something i live by and it gives me confidence and motivation for the things I DO and accomplish

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  8. PRETTY GURL SWAGG
    To me this qoute means if you never try something you will never accomplish anything.If you never try something you can't say it's to hard or it's too easy.why?Because you haven't attempted to prove what you are trying to say.From this quote i know if I try at something ,and fail at least I know that I tried.Then on the other hand if I never try to do anything,I won't say it's too hard and i wont judge someone if they can't accomplish it.Overal and finally try something before you say you can't do it and if try and fail try again and keep trying.Then one day it will finally click and make sense. :)

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  9. I think that this quote means exactly what it says. Do or do not, there is no try. Either you get something accomplished or you don't. You never TRY.It's either one or the other. I think as well that this is more of an inspirational quote, saying that you can do just about anything you set your mind to.

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  10. I agree with drummerlover1998. This quote means exactly what it says. you shouldn't just try. You should say "I am going to do it!" Actually doing something is different then just trying. Doing something means that no matter what you will accomplish your goal. Saying try does hold you back because if you only try, there isn't a big chance that you are actually going to do it. Saying "try" is for the people who don't believe in their self and don't have the motivation to do something. Saying you will do something, gives you the motivation to do it. These two words can influence how we act each day, but I believe that actually saying you're going to do something is better.

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  11. what it's trying to say is that you may say your going to do this but you never do it unless you stop thinking you that you will do it and actually do it.

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  12. from Monroe98:

    I think that people use try as an excuse to fail. But in reality we should all think we can before we try because with that mindset we are more likely to succeed in what we are doing. By saying try we are setting ourselves up to fail at the task at hand. If we say I think I can I think I can that is motivation to ourselves to succeed!

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  13. from Arsenal18:

    I think this guy is saying that we shouldn't try, we should do something with complete effort. I know that when i am doing something i don't like i don't do it right or give effort because i'm trying it and not doing it. To me, he is saying that do everything, not try it.

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  14. from Charlse948:

    Yes i believe that it is possible that we can be holding are selves back when we say I'll try. What I mean is when a situation is going on and it is you who is in the wrong than you cant say I'll will try to do better and it happens more than once sure sometimes they'll appreciate the effort. When you go the extra mile and say i will do better it is as I am giving you my word. It actually makes someone want to trust you.

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  15. from Destroyer619:

    This is a pretty confusing quote, but a good one. I think what Yoda's saying is don't just try to do something, do it and do it good. If you don't know how to do it, just take the chance. Who knows, you might learn something new.

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